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Thursday, July 11, 2013

After 5 Months: Con't Review of Saga FLX


After almost 5 months of driving my new toy, Proton Saga FLX 1.3 (Executive), clocking around 7000km now, I have learnt a few new things about the car.

1. Fuel Consumption
I have (still) not yet driven a full highway drive, so can't comment on that. But on city drive, it is actually not bad at all. I have averaged 13.9km/L (7.19L/100km if you like), and recently have been consistently achieving 14+km/L, and they are mostly driven on city road. And I do occasionally push the car around and having some fun, though mostly keeping the rpm at less than 3000. Of course, you will still need to drive smartly, read the flow of traffic, and don't do stupid and unnecessary braking.
Also, I have found that I have slightly better fuel economy using Shell 95 (if compared with BHP 95)! And I thought most review on Shell 95 are not so favourable! Not scientifically accurate, but this Fuelly data is still a compiled regular usage data. Other brand of fuel will be tried soon.
I do wish the fuel tank is slightly larger though. 45 litre of capacity would be good, as I would prefer to only have to refuel after about 400km, unlike the current Saga where I would start hunting for petrol station after about 340km.
Verdict: Not bad at all. Not the best. But for a car this price, you can't really complaint. Also depends on your right foot, traffic, and your brain.


2. Alarm System
The buttons on the key is just too small! And often, I actually accidentally trigger the panic button when the remote is in the pocket! Not very user friendly indeed.
Another annoying thing about the alarm is that it automatically arm the system if you did not do anything after you disarm the alarm. And not an option to disable it. Not really a problem, but if your door sensor is problematic like mine, where the left front door sensor is on and off not functioning, you can actually accidentally lock yourself out of the car! 
Verdict: Basic alarm, with a badly designed remote.

3. Auto Central Lock
An important feature missing in the Saga: No auto central lock when the car starts moving/brake pedal is depressed. Translation: You need to manually lock the car EVERYTIME! Its an important feature, considering the rampant crime rate in the street in Malaysia. 
Verdict: Missing feature!

4. Ride and Handling
As previously stated, ride is on the smooth and comfortable side, but is also very stable at high speed (at least until 140km/h). The padded seat is very good in providing lateral support when doing hard cornering.
Overtaking car has never been that fun with CVT. You will breeze pass through the car easily with the rev-happy CAMPRO. But you will need to calculate exactly (about 1 second ahead) when you want to do some serious overtaking. Suddenly increasing the throttle will only built up the engine speed initially. After the engine speed reached the necessary speed, only will you feel the rush as the clutch closes and the gear move appropriately. Planning ahead is the keyword..
Engine braking is still very high, which is not good for FC. It may actually contributed to the braking performance of Saga (and maybe Preve as well, which claimed to have very good stock brake). 
Also, be careful when driving and stopping at slope, as it is totally different from normal torque converter automatic gearbox. The car will slide back even if engaged in D. If you stopped on the slope, use handbrake, and slightly press the throttle before you release the handbrake to built the engine speed (and torque) and let the clutch closes so that you will actually move forward!
But the good thing is the engine and CVT noise is getting lower (or it may be my ear drum is getting less sensitive?) as the run-in continue. The rear brake noise, a very common problem with this generation of Saga, has been fixed as it is under warranty. I do however feels that the brake is not as powerful as before.
Verdict: Nice setting for a small family car. Need to get used to the dry-clutch-CVT to actually enjoy it. AND beware of slope!

5. Maintenance Cost
Only 2 services so far, with the next one being 10,000km service. Around RM110 for semi-synthetic Petronas-brand 10W-40 engine oil and around RM15 for oil filter. Next one is going to be more expensive, and I probably will want to switch to fully synthetic!
Verdict: Will know as soon as it is out of warranty.

Summary:
Saga is still the cheapest B-segment sedan (of course, with the inclusion of hellish excise duty) with minimal feature but good comfort, cheap to run, and moderately safe (3-star ANCAP rating) car. As car is just a depreciating asset, putting money in one expensive car is not for everybody, especially with the price of house here being crazily high. It might be more worth it to put your money into getting a home first, before you consider getting a high end car. Well, if you have the moolah, no problem in getting a better car. Just my 2 kupang. Unless the government's policy change, Saga is still the better choice of the day.

Related News:
1. Saga SV? Not really worth it. Although it did come with 2 front airbag, it is lacking in ABS. ABS is a seriously important gadget nowadays, especially in Malaysia as torrential rain is very common in this tropical country of Malaysia. In the dry, ABS may not be that important (and may actually increase the braking distance), but in the wet and low grip surface, ABS provide significantly important control back to the driver. Safety should not be compromised even at the lower end range of a car. Proton should repent!
2. And when the promise of cheaper car was made, we expect lower price of the same model with same specification, not cheaper price of a same model with lower specification. And safety should never be compromised in that sense as well.

12 comments:

  1. you keep hunting for gas station at 340km ? does it means that your gas indicator start blinking at that point ? mine is only BLM saga but the indicator start to blink after 350km , and at times it may reach 370km ....

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  2. Nope. I am a bit paranoid, and I always start looking for petrol station soon after when the 2nd last bar is gone. I have never had it blinking yet, so I am not sure when it will start blinking. And for BLM to reach 370km when it starts blinking is very good fuel consumption already!

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    1. 2 days ago I got 395km before the indicator starts to blink ! FYI i pump in 30psi to my tire everytime .

      BTW I really impress with your FLX ! thanks to the CVT i guess :-)

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  3. Hey thanks for this review. I'm gng to get a FLX Executive in a few days and I find your review helpful - a good review from a normal car owner, not a car freak!

    Hope my unit won't have that rare break noise problem.

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  4. Thanks for reading! And have fun driving the new car! I don't have much experience with other cars, so do forgive me if later you find my review not as good. But for me it fits my need with comfort and confidence in driving.
    As long as it is under warranty, the very common brake sound should be fine as the brake performance doesn't seems to reduce when I started having the weird sound.

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  5. Hello. Been looking at your reviews on the Saga FLX as I am also considering one due to my need and budget constraint. Are you going to continue updating this post? It'll be good to see what your thoughts on it further down the road as I am still weighing my options at the moment.

    Some quick questions, did you find CVT-and-wet clutch-influenced behaviour of the car scary? Was it easy to get used to?

    Thanks!

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    1. Its a good car, but as usual, Proton are not famous for their QC, so it really depends on your luck. Mine have some minor problems, so far nothing major. But driving that little car can be really fun actually.

      As for the CVT-wet-clutch behaviour, it does need to take a bit of time to get used to it. Not really that scarry. Just think of it as the manual kancil (without the clutch and gear stick) that you used to drive when taking your license ;)

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  6. O.o wah ur fc so good geh..me same car like u oni go 200km then nid refuel le.. only gone thru 1st service..i heard they say will gradually improve so issit tru?

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  8. hi, i service my saga sv manual transmission at 1000km recently and was charged for 2 engine oil, ie petronas syntium 800 10w/30 (3L) - rm86 and Petronas syntium 800 10w/30 (1L) - rm32.

    my question is why need 2, is it saga sv need more than 3L to fill up the engine??

    please advise.

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  9. hi, may i know what is the best Engine oil for my Saga 1.3 flx?? or recommended??
    i can barely reach 300km with full tank.. city+highway driving..
    please advice.

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  10. campro engines usually use 4 litre of engine oil

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